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 John Bevere
Killing Kryptonite

Minister and best-selling author John Bevere talks with Randy Robison and Sheila Walsh on LIFE Today about his #1 book, "Killing Kryptonite"

  Randy: I love this very heroic-feeling theme you've got going here. But it's actually very serious, what we're talking about here. Tell us about kryptonite and how we need to avoid it.

  John: It is amazing. I was writing the second chapter of this book and, all of the sudden, I said, "kryptonite." It was Corinthians kryptonite because Paul said, "Corinth," he said to the church, "you're weak."
  And I started thinking it's kryptonite!
  And when you look at Superman and you look at us, there is a lot of similarities. He's of another world, we're of another world. He liberates people, we liberate people. He draws his strength from the sun, we draw our strength from the Son.
  You can go on and on but there was that substance that neutralized his powers and caused him to become weaker than a normal man.
  I realize that there is a very real kryptonite that weakens us. We are supposed to be representatives of the kingdom of God which means we're otherworldly, which means we walk in a way that causes others to be amazed.  
  If you look at the early church, they were known as the people who turned the world upside down. That's how the unbelievers referred to them. They had to convince people they were not superheroes or Gods. They had character that was uncanny.
  How many people do you know getting large rocks hurled at them go, "Forgive them"?
  They prayed and buildings were shaken. They healed the sick in the streets, cities were being won to the Lord -- entire communities. The entire city of Lydda, Sharon, Joppa, Caesarea, or the city of Samaria, the entire region of Asia heard the word of the Lord in two years. And the Bible can't exaggerate. They've got no social media. They've got no television. How do they do that?

  But then I start looking at the church at Corinth. Now you've got to remember the early church I just talked about, they were around 30 A.D. When you look at Corinth, Corinth is 56 A.D. when Paul is writing to them. It's 25 years later. Well, they're not affecting... if you research the Corinth church, they didn't affect their city like the early church was. Paul said to them, "It is because you're weak." And there was something that was causing them to be weak and that's that spiritual kryptonite.

  I look at today and I'm so thrilled at all that's being done for Jesus, for people, in the name of Jesus; right? But I go to conferences, Sheila, and do you ever think this way, maybe it is just
me. I'm like, great; there are 12,000 people in this building. What about the other two million
people in this city? Do you ever think like that?

  Sheila: Sure, yeah!

  John: I'm like, this prophet comes along in the Old Testament and says to these guys that came
back from captivity. He says, "Look at this temple. How do you see it now in comparison to before we went into captivity? Solomon's temple? Isn't it nothing in your eyes?" But he said, "But the glory of the latter house is going to be greater than the former."

  I don't believe he was talking about that temple. That temple was never greater than Solomon's. He's talking about the church. We're going to be greater as far as character, as far as power, transformational power than even the early church.

  Randy: So why do you think we're not always as effective as we should be?

  John: Because of this substance called kryptonite. It is real. Superman is fictional. For us it is real.

  Sheila: One of the things I wanted to ask before we dive into the real heart and meat of the book, you kind of pull back the curtain a little bit at the beginning and you say that you really felt tempted to put this book down and start -- you write a lot but six times you thought, I don't want to do this.

  John: I've never had this happen before. I've written 20 books. 
  Sheila: Why do you think that is, John?

  John: It was like, God, I don't want to write this book. I don't want to write this book. Because, six times, finally, it was the sternest I'd heard the Holy Spirit all year and he was like, "You will!" And he didn't say "You will" but that's how I'm translating. He was like, "Son, I need you to write this book." But it was first of all causing me to confront issues in my own life.

  Sheila: That usually happens to me in my writing too.

  John: I really get transparent in this book.

  Sheila, I was bound to pornography. I open up and share how God set me free on May the 6th, 1985. I'll never forget it because I'm free today and it's 30 years later. What people said, that a red blooded American male couldn't be free from, God set me free. When I was 11 years old I got hooked into pornography. One of my friends shared a magazine with me and I remember it went from soft porn to regular porn to hard porn. I would sit in high school classes and I would undress girls and I would have the wildest imaginations.
  So I get saved in my fraternity at college at Purdue University and then I marry Lisa and I think, okay. It will be fine now. I'm a Christian, I got saved, I'm now married to the most beautiful girl in my eyes that walks the face of the earth.
  Well, it was just as bad and got worse. I remember how I had to address this. It was something that weakened my life.
  There was freedom. I'm just glad that people loved me enough to tell me how to get free. The scripture was so clear but it was a wrestling thing. I had to wrestle will with it for a couple of years until I could find out why I wasn't getting free.

  So I was able to share that in the book.
  Hopefully, there will be people that get free when they read that one chapter. That's only one of the chapters.

  Randy: Compare a little bit, though, going through that and we know that that is not the only kryptonite in our lives.

  John: Right. I'm just sharing a personal story.

  Randy: So tell me the weakness that you experienced when that was an issue versus the strength you felt when that issue was resolved.

  John: We're spiritual beings, let's be honest. You know when the power of God is flowing through you and the life of God is flowing through you; and you know when you're just going through the motions and there is nothing.
  Well, I was going through the motions and there was very little.
  So yeah, I mean, the whole thing is let's ask ourselves, what do we really want? What do we
want in this life? Do we want to be near God and walk with him and exemplify the kind of power that Jesus did? Because the Bible says that we're to walk as he walked. Jesus said, "As
the Father sent me I've sent you."
  I'm almost 60 now. I'm asking questions that all of us have but none of us are asking because we
are afraid to ask them. That's what that prophet did. He asked them questions that they were all
afraid to ask because we don't want to have to address this. But yes, we're not walking in our full potential. It is all about that.

  I remember just recently, and I actually was able to put this example in the book. My son, Arden, was in India and he was doing a conference. You know they didn't even show up to pick him up at the airport? He had flown all the way from the United States and they said, "Take a cab."
  You talk about a dad who was so furious. Oh my gosh, I wanted to fly over there and beat them all up. I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. Okay? I was like, what are you doing? My son flies all the way over, halfway around the world and you don't even pick him up at the airport?     I'm sorry, I'm kind of manifesting right now. Sorry! But I remember my son's like texting me. He's like, "Dad, dad! What do I do? What do I do?"
  I had messed up my iPhone's operating system. I could not -- I would write out a sentence and it
would shut down and go out of texting. It took me 15 minutes before I could get one word to stick but two hours to get one sentence out to him. I was so frustrated, Sheila, I was so frustrated, Randy, and yet, you know what the Holy Spirit started saying to me? A hundred years ago I would have been jumping up and down if I could get my son one sentence in India in a split second like that.

  So what was the problem here? I knew my potential. I'm asking all of us, in this book, are we walking in our potential? Are we under the influence of kryptonite and not being the best we can in our own strength outside of what he energizes us with -- what he energized that early church with?

  Sheila: So let's name that kryptonite, though. You say that for Christians our kryptonite is idolatry.

  John: It is!

  Sheila: Now that image might conjure up something different than what you are.

  John: We totally have a misconnect. That's why, Sheila, Lisa had said to me, "What is the  elevator version of this message?" I said, "It took me 13 chapters to tell people what idolatry is."

  I'm like, how am I going to do this on these short interviews that I do?
  But, here's the deal. Just make it simple. When you say "idolatry" this is where an American's minds goes, Christian or non-Christian, but especially Christian. It goes to statues, temples, idols or figurines, or it goes to putting my favorite football team above Jesus -- that's idolatry.

  Okay, well, that's like saying every car in America is either a Toyota or a Mazda. Well, what about the Hondas, what about the GMC, what about the Buick, about the Chrysler, what about the Mercedes? We've just left out 80% of the cars. That's the way it is when you say the word idolatry to an American Christian. We're missing 80% of what it really is.

  So, it's like the Holy Spirit started leading me on this study and I found out what true idolatry is. It really comes to down to two words. Paul says twice in Ephesians five and Colossians three, that covetousness is idolatry.
  Now, we don't use that word covetousness. What is covetousness?
  It is a word that means a deep intense desire for some supposed good. The Greek dictionaries, the Lexicon says it is a self idolizing grasping spirit.
  Now, put that on the shelf and let's go back to when Saul, King Saul didn't obey God. God said to him, "Kill every Amalekite." But Saul was insecure and Saul thought it would be better for him and the kingdom if he saved the king alive and spared the best animals of Amalek.
  Why does he do this? Because if you conquer a nation back then and you have their king living in your palace, he is a living trophy. Every time you see him he reminds you of your conquest of his nation.

  If you give the people the sheep to sacrifice to the Lord, your approval rating is going to go up as president. So Saul says that's a better idea. So when Samuel confronts him, Samuel makes the statement. He says, "Stubbornness is as idolatry." The word is and as are in italic time, they're not in the original.
  What he literally said is "stubbornness is idolatry." The word stubbornness, that Hebrew word means to push back.
  So, what is idolatry? It is when we push back from obeying what God has clearly revealed to us in order to get what we believe is good for us.
  So, the basic difference between the world and a believer, here it is, it can be summed up into this: The world says, "I know what is good, best, and right for my life."
  The believer says, "I choose what God says is good, best, and right for my life."

  Do you see that major difference? So, idolatry is when we push back from what God says is good, right, best for our life to go after what we -- that's what Eve did in the garden. So when God says in his word, let's just use an example. God says in his word that the marriage bed is undefiled and that sexually immoral and adulterers God will judge; right? He says that; right?
  When we go, "Society says it is better when two people fall in love they move in together, they won't have to pay two rents, two utilities. They won't have to pay all this. They can build for their future. They're in love. They're affectionate. They're going to be faithful to one another."
  So, what we do now is we push back from what God says and we embrace what we believe is good. But the sad thing is, what we believe is good will end up biting us like the lioness that we talked about when Lisa was on the program yesterday or the day before.

  Randy: Like kryptonite.

  John: It's kryptonite. It weakens us. Now we have the form but we have lost the power. Let's face it. Jesus walks into a temple and everybody's attention -- I mean demonic -- he walks into areas, Paul, they carry something that speaks louder than anything in the natural and they change environments.
  I believe, as ambassadors of the kingdom, we're called to change our environments, the world of our influence. Whether I'm in the marketplace, I'm in health care, education, the government, we're not supposed to be people who can just speak scriptures.
  If you look at Daniel, he was not trained by the finest teachers and scientists and leaders in the whole world like all those Babylonians were. But, yet he was wiser, ten times wiser, smarter. He got promoted above all of them. He shined as a bright light. He had that power. He didn't have kryptonite holding him back. He wasn't an idolater.

  Sheila: That's powerful! That's worth clapping for. [Applause]
  One of the things that really stood out to me in reading the book is you say the truest definition of worship isn't music or singing but obedience. That to me is huge.

  John: So, in Romans chapter one, the whole thing isn't about the idols, it is about the fact that they knew God -- they knew God. Their consciences, he gave them consciences. Read Romans one and two, it is so clear: Right?
  But they didn't worship him as God. So, then it says, in the New Living Translation...it says that they began to think up strange ideas of what God was like.
  So, let's back up a minute. They didn't worship him as God. We check out right there because we think worship is a slow song. We think it is when they turn the lights down and we're singing the slow songs to Jesus and it is right before we do the offering or the message or it is a worship service.
  You see what I'm saying? But as an author of 20 books, any time I introduce a new term that I know that most readers will not be familiar with, I have to give the definition, the primary definition or an example that illustrates the primary definition when I introduce it in that book; correct?
  If you go to the first place worship is found in the Bible, guess what, God is the best author in the whole universe, so he's going to introduce what it is. It is Genesis 22, verse five when Abraham looks at his men and says, "Isaac and I are going up there on that mountain to worship."
  He was not going up to sing a slow song. He wasn't going up to do a service. He was going up to obey what God told him and didn't give him a reason why.
  So the highest form of worship is obedience. That's why God said, "I'm so fed up with the noise of your hymns and your songs, get rid of them. I want a life of obedience -- and through the prophets."

  Randy: So to connect that, are you suggesting that if we will live a life of obedience we can have that power that God intends us to have that will change the world?

  John: I believe that power is available. I believe we're blocking it with our kryptonite. So,he answer is, yes. God wants us walking in it. The fact is we're blocking it.

  Sheila: A couple of weeks back pastor Sammy Rodriguez said something I thought was amazing. He said, "When I walk into a room the atmosphere should shift because of who lives in
me." And there was something about that that just -- I actually wrote it in the back of my Bible
because I thought, Lord, it doesn't matter if I'm walking into Walmart or onto a platform, because of who you are, because you're alive in me, the very fact that I walk into a room things should shift.

  John: I remember years and years ago I'm going way back, I'm going to date myself. Carman wrote a song called and "An Invitation to a Witch's House." It was all about a Christian going to a witch's house and it was a great video. But I said to some of my friends, I said, "Most Christians couldn't go to a witch's house because the witch is stronger in their sin than they are in God."
  See, the reason Jesus changed atmospheres is because he was stronger in his Father than the people were in sin. So we're called to control the atmosphere. That's why the Bible says, "When the righteous rule, the people rejoice." We don't rule by electing a godly man into office, although we should do that. We rule by obedience.

  Randy: How much of that is on us and how much of that is on God?

  John: God's already given us everything we need, Randy. The grace of God unfortunately has been undersold to the church. We say grace forgives us -- 100 percent true. Grace saves us -- 100 percent true. Grace is a free gift -- 100 percent true. But, what we stopped telling people is grace empowers us to do what we couldn't do in our own ability.
  When God refers to His grace he said to Paul, "My grace is sufficient for you for my power." He defines His grace as his power. Peter said, "Grace be multiplied to you as his divine power has given to us everything we need to live a godly life."
  So, you can't have anything from God unless you believe; right? You could never have gotten saved unless somebody told you Jesus is Lord and savior. Right?
  Well, most Americans don't know that grace is God's empowerment. So, if I don't know that grace is God's empowerment, that means I'm going to try to live for God in my own ability. Can I tell you, that's why I couldn't get free from pornography. I was trying to do it in my own ability and I got more frustrated every day. But, when I found out that God's grace was his empowerment that gave me the ability to do what I couldn't do in my own ability, I depended on His grace and I'm free 30 years later.

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John Bevere and his wife Lisa are the founders of Messenger International. A minister and best-selling author, John delivers messages of uncompromising truth with boldness and passion. His desire is to support the local church and resource leaders regardless of location, language, or financial position. To this end, his resources have been translated into over 90 languages, and millions of copies have been given away to pastors and leaders worldwide. When he's home, John tries to convince Lisa to take up golf and spends time with his four sons, daughter-in-law, and grandbabies.


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"Killing Kryptonite:
Destroy What Steals
Your Strength"

What's your kryptonite?
For so many Christians, frustration and fatigue set in as they try time and again to get free from what holds them back. God never intended for it to be this way. He destined you to be victorious in every area of your life, and more than that, He gives you the power to overcome whatever comes against you. In his new book Killing Kryptonite, best-selling author John Bevere opens up about his own story, revealing key biblical truths that moved him from a life of struggle to a life of breakthrough. You can enjoy a life of intimacy and connection with God. You can have a vibrant, powerful faith that impacts the world around you. But first, you have to face off with spiritual kryptonite. This book is not for the faint of heart. But if you're ready to embrace a journey of radical transformation, this message is for you. Are you ready to kill your kryptonite and step into the life you were born for? Includes discussion
John Bevere
"Driven By Eternity: Make Your Life Count Today and Forever"

How would you live if you discovered that the next 24 hours would determine your future? Would you intentionally direct your actions or let the chips fall where they may? In this 6-session study, Bevere blends allegory with Scripture to show how the choices we make today have an eternal impact. Includes discussion questions.

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Why Good Without God 
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These days the terms good and God seem synonymous. We believe what's generally accepted as good must be in line with God's will. Generosity, humility, justice―good. Selfishness, arrogance, cruelty―evil. The distinction seems pretty straightforward. But is that all there is to it? If good is so obvious, why does the Bible say that we need discernment to recognize it? Good or God? isn't another self-help message. This book will do more than ask you to change your behavior. It will empower you to engage with God on a level that will change every aspect of your life.

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"Holy Spirit"

The Holy Spirit is often the least understood---and most ignored---person of the Trinity. Who is he? What is his mission? And how is he involved in your life? Bevere's interactive study reveals the personality of the Spirit, his language, three levels of relationship with him, and more. Includes daily devotions and discussion questions. 232 pages, softcover from Messenger International.

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"The Bait of Satan
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Are you ensnared by bitterness, seized by anger, or held captive by resentment . . . all because someone has offended you? Bevere shows you how to escape Satan's grip, avoid a victim mentality, practice forgiveness, experience reconciliation, and remain free in Christ. This special edition features testimonies from readers whose lives have been changed. 288 pages, softcover from Charisma.

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"The Story of Marriage"

God designed marriage to be a loving, lifelong covenant that joins together a man and a woman. Have we lost touch with his original plan? Inviting you to rediscover the divine story of your sacred union, John and Lisa Bevere share personal insights, daily devotions, discussion questions, and tools for building your dream relationship.

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"Lizzy the Lioness"

Sometimes the bravest thing you can do is ask for help! Encourage your little ones with the true meaning of bravery through the beautiful story of Lizzy the Lioness by New York Times bestselling author Lisa Bevere.
Boys and girls will love the story of Lizzy, a little lion who must learn what it truly means to be brave in the face of hard things. When she sees someone in danger, Lizzy tries her best to help, but she quickly learns that sometimes being brave means asking adults for help. With a unique spin on the concept of bravery, Lizzy the Lioness is a timely picture book in an ever-changing world. Children will see that bravery is so much more than big muscles or loud roars.

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Without Rival:
Embrace Your Identity and Purpose in an Age of Confusion and Comparison"

You are a daughter without rival, serving a God without rival, called to a destiny without rival. It's time to step forward into a life...without rival. In Without Rival, you'll learn how to make the deep connections you long for with your Creator - connections that hold the promise of true identity and intimacy. With biblically sound teaching filled with prophetic insight for our day, Lisa uses humor and passion
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* Answer the argument that says women are unfit
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"Girls With Swords"

Be empowered to live confidently by returning to the biblical model of feminine strength! Drawing on the many references to swords throughout Scripture, Bevere reveals a paradigm that will impact every aspect of your self-identity, spiritual awareness, relationships, and life mission. Equip yourself to boldly face the challenges in today's world! Softcover.

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